6.131: Can you Interpret “Flesh and Spirit” (Apostle Paul) from a Pro-Body Perspective?

In episode 131 of the Enter the Bible podcast, co-hosts Kathryn Schifferdecker and Katie Langston discuss the audience-submitted question, "Can you interpret "flesh and spirit" (Apostle Paul) from a pro-body perspective?" with guest Dr. Matt Skinner.

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In episode 131 of the Enter the Bible podcast, co-hosts Kathryn Schifferdecker and Katie Langston discuss the audience-submitted question, “Can you interpret “flesh and spirit” (Apostle Paul) from a pro-body perspective?” with guest Dr. Matt Skinner.

Matthew L. Skinner is Professor of New Testament at Luther Seminary. His books include Acts: Catching up with the Spirit (Abingdon Press, 2020), A Companion to the New Testament (3 volumes; Baylor University Press, 2017-18), Intrusive God, Disruptive Gospel: Encountering the Divine in the Book of Acts (Brazos Press, 2015) and The Trial Narratives: Conflict, Power, and Identity in the New Testament (WJK Press, 2010).

Motivated by an interest in helping people explore the Bible’s connections to faith and life, he has contributed to several commentaries, encyclopedias, and other resources to assist pastors, teachers, and students in their study of Christian scripture. Every week, he co-hosts the Sermon Brainwave podcast on Working Preacher.

Ordained as a teaching elder in the Presbyterian Church (USA), he serves as the Scholar for Adult Education at Westminster Presbyterian Church in Minneapolis. His work can be found online at www.matthewskinner.org.

Show notes

Biblical books and passages mentioned

  • Galatians 5:16-17 (Works of the Flesh)
  • Galatians 5:22-26 (Fruits of the Spirit)
  • Romans 6 (Dying and Rising with Christ)
  • Romans 12 (Living Sacrifice)
  • 1 Corinthians 6 (Glorify God in Body and Spirit)
  • 1 Corinthians 12 (Spiritual Gifts)
  • 1 Corinthians 15 (Resurrection)

Topics, themes, and figures mentioned

  • Ernst Käsemann’s Commentary on Romans (PDF Link)
  • Flesh vs. Spirit
  • Biology and Anthropology
  • Mystical Escape
  • σάρξ/sarx/flesh
  • Self-indulgence
  • Sin as enslavement
  • Modern worldview
  • Spiritual worship

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Matthew L. Skinner

Matthew Skinner joined Luther Seminary’s faculty in 2002, having earned his Ph.D. in biblical studies from Princeton Theological Seminary, where he had previously completed his M.Div. and served as a teaching fellow and visiting lecturer. Much of Skinner’s published work focuses on the Gospels, the Acts of the Apostles, the cultural realities displayed in these writings, and their ongoing theological relevance. He is the author of Acts: Catching Up with the Spirit, Intrusive God, Disruptive Gospel: Encountering the Divine in the Book of Acts, and the three-volume A Companion to the New Testament. He co-hosts Sermon Brainwave, a popular weekly podcast that offers assistance to preachers as they interpret biblical texts to prepare their sermons and is ordained as a teaching elder in the Presbyterian Church (USA).

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Katie Langston

Katie Langston is a doubter by nature and a believer by grace. She grew up Mormon in a small Utah town and still isn't sure she fits in anywhere sophisticated enough to have a Target. She's the author of Sealed: An Unexpected Journey into the Heart of Grace, an acclaimed spiritual memoir about her conversion to orthodox Christianity. Katie works as the director of digital strategy for Luther Seminary's innovation team, where she oversees digital projects aimed at cultivating vibrant Christian spirituality in a post-modern, post-Christian cultural context.

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Kathryn M. Schifferdecker

Kathryn M Schifferdecker came to Luther Seminary as an assistant professor of Old Testament in 2006. Ordained in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America in 2001, Schifferdecker was associate pastor for five years at Trinity Lutheran Church, Arkdale, Wisc., before coming to Luther. Schifferdecker is a frequent contributor to workingpreacher.org, Word & World and the author of Out of the Whirlwind: Creation Theology in the Book of Job (Harvard University Press, 2008). She is currently writing a commentary on the book of Esther.

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